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Journal Entry: Sun Jun 9, 2013, 5:21 AM
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Changes coming your way!

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Got a question? R.O.M Still {CLOSED FOR QUESTIONS}

Journal Entry: Tue May 28, 2013, 5:51 AM


Still in R.O.M

Yes we are still in R.O.M but we are most def getting through them very quickly, I am hoping by the end of the week we will have submitted all the secrets that were sent in before R.O.M so we can start accepting new secrets once again.
Please read the Secrets R.O.M journal for for all information on this. [link]

Questions?

Ok, so a lot of you have a lot of things to say about DAS, the secrets added to it, and about the helpers etc.
Some of you have nice things to say, and some not so nice things to say.
This is not something that is done very often, so this is one of the very few chances you will get to ask a question and have DAS answer it.
If you have a question you would like to ask me ( DAS ) I will do my best to answer it in here.


Your Q me A

First I will answer a few random things I have read for myself.  Please make sure you read all the questions and answers before you ask a question.

Q Is this the new journal skin?
A Lol no it isnt, I just decided with all the negative comments about the Club going on at the moment, I would add a bit of brightness to the page lol

QWill you let everyone know when you are out of R.O.M
A Yes for sure, a journal will be added letting you all know when we are open for accepting secrets again.

QHow many admin do you have?
A I DAS. I have what I like to call helpers, as they help me to help you :D  At the moment I have 10 helpers and 1 Editor helper.

Q Do you need more admin?
A No, at the moment I have enough, and I have more in the waiting if need be. If and when I need more helpers, I will advertise for more.

Q Why are the comments turned off?
A DAS has the comments turned off by default. But, when a secret is sent in, they have the choice to ask for the comments to be turned on. If they ask for comments to be turned on, then they are. Otherwise they are left turned off.
We dont turn them off it is the ST's choice.

Q Why are some comments hidden?
A  DAS has rules in place to protect secret tellers, when name calling or when someone leaves a comment that is just out right rude it will be hidden. There is no need to be mean. There is a difference between being rude to a ST, and criticism.
Keeping in mind secrets are not sent in to look all artistic like. They are mainly words and emotions. So saying something about how crappy it has been drawn is not going to help in the case of DAS. if it was added to a normal page then maybe, but not in DAS. Also if criticism was asked or wanted, then it would say in it. As dA gives that option.

QYou add a mature tag on some secrets, why?
A This is a dA rule that we like everyone else needs to follow. We do not do it to annoy anyone, we do not do it to filter anything out. If a secret has nude images in it, a mature tag will be added, if it has swearing a mature tag will be added, if it has a mature tag added to a secret, it is because we like everyone else need to follow dA rules and add a mature tag when needed.

Q Why do you add secrets that are not good art?
A Why not? What is "good art" ? Who are you to decide what is good art and what isnt? Who am I to? Who are my helpers to? None of us are. Art is in the eye of the beholder.

Q Why dont you stop having your art on dA's front page. its annoying.
A :lol: Now this makes me laugh, its something Im reading over and over again.
Quick answer.. Dont you think if I was able to stop it getting on the front page I would have done it by now? This is not something DAS has any control over what so ever. You need to have this up with dA its self. Its dA that sets what gets added on the front page and how it does. We do not put it there, we do not do anything to make it hit the front page. It just is what it is, and it is out of our hands.
If we could we would stop them getting on the front page, cause then it would stop all of the people who keep complaining, who happen to be even more annoying then the secrets getting on the front page.

Q Is there a reason why DAS doesnt reply to comments?
A You will come across DAS replying to a comment every now and again, but you are right, DAS doesnt reply to comments, and this is because, as it is, there are 1000's of comments to go though every day.  It is near impossible for myself or the Editor helper to catch them all. We have so much to do as it is, this would just be another thing to add to the list of things that need to be done, It is much easier for anyone who has a question for DAS to send us a note, or an email with the question.

Q How long has DAS been around, and how long has the main DAS been in here?
A Ahh, this is a good question, and something that I have been asked many times lately lol.  Let me think, about 7 years I think DAS has been around now. let me double check that though.
March 2006 DAS was born. So 7 years DAS has been around.
I am the main DAS. But I am not the founder.  The person who first brought about DAS was here for about 6 months, they then asked me to help them out. So I have been here pretty much from the start. After about a year. The founder of DAS sadly had to walk away from DAS and hand it over to myself.
I did it on my own for a good year of just over a year after the founder left. I then decided it was time to get a little help as the Club got bigger and bigger.
From there it has gotten bigger and bigger, so I have needed to get more and more helpers.

Q  Whats up with the pink skin? its hard to read
A LOL, sorry about that, I guess it was a little too bright lol, I just wanted something a little bight and happy hehe. I have changed the text color now, So its easier to read now. I hope thats better.

Q What if people could submit a secret in the form of poetry? I've considered sharing a secret many times, but I always want to do it poetically... I'm just a poetry lover I guess hehe xD Like, DAS could make a journal entry with the poem? Maybe? I dunno? :3
A Good question, this is something I have been thinking of myself lately, just wanted to get R.O.M out of the way before looking into anything new.
It wont be a journal entry though. But I am thinking of ways of adding it as text.  Although its a little hard when secrets need to be short and to the point, as with poems, they tend to get long at times. But watch this spot, you never know whats around the corner.

QDoes a person have to be a member of deviantART to post a secret? If not, then why?!
A No, anyone can send in a secret. Because unless a person gives their dA ID each time, there is no way to know if they are a member of dA or not. Which goes against the rules of DAS of not having to say who they are.

QDon't you think this would be better suited on a dedicated blog (Tumblr etc.) or Facebook, or a Twitter account that posts the secrets?
</b>A</b> Maybe, but why should it have to only be on one of those sites! Its Lit, its got just as much right to be on dA then anything else added on dA.  If it wasnt for the fact that dA  ( NOT DAS ) keeps adding  secrets to the front page, noone would be complaining about it all.
Not everyone has any of those sites, and a lot of people do not want people commenting on their secrets, in places like that it would get bashed in a big way.

QWhy do you not obey your own rules on Repetitive Secrets?
A You make a good point. There has been more of these secrets added lately, and yes I do need to get more strict with this. I have let it slip a bit too much lately. There will be a few little changes when we are out of R.O.M this being one of them.

A just because you disagree with something, or that it is upsetting, doesn't make it wrong/incorrect, or untrue. Your interpretation of 'rude' or 'mean' is seriously flawed, judging by the types of comments you've hidden, including mine. The people commenting are CLEARLY upset that the art site they love is being poisoned by trite blocks of text laden with typos and sob stories, but instead of dealing with the problem, you decide to hide any opposition. A 'club' like this should know better than any that hiding your problems doesn't male them go away.
</b>A</b> This is not the reason why comments are hidden,  if people stopped complaining and read journals which explain things, then I wouldnt have to keep hiding repetitive comments.  for the 100 millionth time. If you have a problem with the secrets ending up on dA front page, then have it up with dA NOT US, we do not have any control over this what so ever.. read the Q's and A's above about this.

QDo you think you're going to start filtering out the more negative secrets and do more positive ones?
A I see your point, but no we wont be, Although I love seeing positive secrets as much as the next person does. We cant control peoples secrets. All secrets are submitted in the order they are sent in, It would be rude of me to pick and decide what should and shouldnt be added. Thats like deciding who needs help and who doesnt.  Its not DAS's choice to make.

QI think I read once that it is possible to ban a user/community so you won't see any uploads of said user/community. Would this really be an option? Then people could just ban DAS and will not be bothered again.
A To be honest with you, I do not know the answer to this, as this is a dA thing not a DAS thing. I know if you block a user you can not post or fav any of their things, and they cant comment fav any of your things. But as far as I know, Their art will still show when you do a search etc. So I would assume that would mean it would still show in the front page if it made it on there.

QSo you admit that they are not sent in to be artistic?
A I did filter out a lot of secrets that were not "artistic" for a long time. But then due to popular demand by the DAS members (via poll ) it was decided who am I to judge what is artist and what isnt.  So I stopped being so "picky" for lack of better words to use.  However, I do still filter out a lot of the secrets that are just really bad, eg/ not even readable etc.  But I do feel that it is not up to me to decide what is artist and what isnt. Yes of course I have my own point of views on what is artist and what isnt. If that was the case, only about 30% of the secrets would be accepted, if not less, as I am very fussy when it comes to art. But that is my own personal opinions on  what is artistic.  Not what DAS is all about.

Q Why do you allow secrets that blatantly admit paedophilic fantasies and murderous fantasies?
A The Club is for people to have a place to add their secrets. also "regret, hope, funny experience, unseen kindness, fantasy, belief, fear, betrayal, erotic desire, feeling, confession or childhood humiliation"
DAS is not here to judge anyone, if its how someone is feeling so be it. A lot of times people add a secret about this kind of thing, and once its off their chest that is the end of it. They just needed to get it out thats all. This of course is not always the case.  I do give links and numbers to those who ask for help in their emails. But I am not in a position to council anyone. I could do more dammage then help.  Same for if not added. Its a very touchy subject really.
I do how ever filter out a lot of secrets that are just too OTT when it comes to this kind of thing.  The ones about this kind of thing that are added, are the ones that are... how can I say.. hmmm.. Well I cant think of the correct word to use lol. So Ill just say they are more readably for the public.

Q Is there any way to enable comments when I didn't specify it in the email? I did put my username in the email, by the way
A Once a secret has been submitted comments will not be turned on if they are already off sorry. If a ST asks for them to be turned off once they have been turned off. Or if comments get out of control for one reason or another, they may then be turned off.

Qhas DAS actually contacted dA about the whole DAS-community-project-on-the-front-page thing? I know you say it's not something you're in charge of, but of everyone that could do something about it, I'd think your say would hold more importance.
</b>A</b> At this point no nothing has been done or said, as I was informed it wouldnt make any difference, also someone else ( a person complaining) reported it or something, They said dA is working with DAS to solve this. Which sounded a little strange, seen as dA has not been in any contact at all with DAS, so not sure how true that is. But I have been  thinking about this. Thank you for the reminder.

QIf DeviantArtSecret is still in R.O.M, can I still send in a secret and have it posted? When?
A No at the moment you can not send in a secret. You will need to wait till we are out of R.O.M before sending in your secret. At the moment we are getting the older ones sent in all out of the way. If all goes well. DAS should ( fingers crossed ) be out of R.O.M by the end of this week :D

QYou may not have control over how sub-sections are weighted by dA, however, you do have control over what you post and you at least stipulate that secrets have an artistic quality to them. Control to exercise some basic oversight on submissions as to what goes up and what does not. Then how does this [link] and others like it get placed up?
A Simple answer.
"Each secret can be a regret, hope, funny experience, unseen kindness, fantasy, belief fear, betrayal, erotic desire, feeling, confession or childhood humiliation.
Reveal anything – as long as it is true and you have never shared it with anyone before.

QYou don't have to set a high bar or such, but if a submission lacks poetry and is just an MS Word screencap or similar then surely you can reject it as not in the spirit of an art site.
A As explained before, many secrets are not submitted as they are worse then what you see on DAS. Text is Art, so even if its not good in your eyes, its still a type of art :)
Also as mentioned in a Q&A somewhere up there lol, There will be a few changes happening in DAS when we are out of R.O.M so keep an eye out.

Q Why not make it a rule that suicidal thoughts and feelings are simply, not allowed?
A Why should they not be allowed? People have them, and DAS is a way of being able to have an outlet, often just expressing they feel this way is enough. Knowing you are not alone when it comes to a certion emotion /feeling is enough to change how a person feels. By not letting people express these emotions, is only making people feel less like anyone cares. Therefore making matter worse for a person who is clearly reaching out for help.

Q What if the music video'my dirty little secret' (which I mention again, I think of for this page) allowed all those suicidal comments?
A You're comparing DAS to a music clip? They are two very different things. You can not compare them, I can not answer this, as they are two very different things.

Q This page should be about weird/quirky secrets or confessions.
</b>A</b> Its about all types of secrets. :)

Q I have a question, the rules says "Secrets must be in a clear, easy to read text and be in English." still I found some secrets just so hard to read I simply skip reading them. either the text is to small or the colour of the text towards the background makes it hard to read it. can you possibly be more strict about this rule?
A I can totally understand where you are coming from,  and can see the point you are making.  This is most def something that I will be getting more strict with. It may not seem like it, but a lot already get rejected due to being unreadable. But yes I will be trying to get stricter with this. I am going to put heads together with helper at some stage to come up with some changes.  I would advertise asking for suggestions in DAS its self. But with all the hate going on at the moment, I know I would only be invaded with hate suggestions, so Im not going to do that lol.

QWhy don't you promote editing tutorials and other resources that can help people edit their secrets better? I see you promote stock, but stock is useless when the person doesn't know how to edit it. Composition, color theory, fonts, etc. all of these are fundamental knowledge that would greatly help your users produce better images that could convey their feelings and secrets better.
A That is a REALLY good idea. I love that idea. I had never thought of it before. Do you have any suggestions for this? Can you please send a note with some links to some tuts you would like to suggest, I feel this could really be a lot of help. Great idea loving it. If anyone else knows of any great tuts on dA for this, please send a note to DAS with a link to it so we can look into this.

Q I not very interested into posting a secret, but is it possible for somebody to post a positive secret? Everytime I see a secret on the front page or when I just wander around dA and come across to a secret, it's always something negative. I understand they are expressing their emotions, but it would be nice if it was something positive for once.
A There are 1000's of happy and positive secrets added to DAS . As explained in one of the Q&A above, we have no control what so ever as to what goes on the front page of dA.  So Im not able to do anything at all about that sorry.

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We are now in R.O.M

Mon May 6, 2013, 12:24 AM
Now in R.O.M

Due to the crazy amount of secrets being sent in, we are now in R.O.M
From this point on DAS will not be accepting any new secrets.  
Any new secrets sent in will Auto be declined. ( you will get a message letting you know we are in R.O.M and to try again when we come out of R.O.M )

We will try and get the secrets that have been sent to us, submitted as soon as we can.  
We are very  sorry for the inconvenience this may have caused you.

-DAS

Heads up

(R.O.M = Read Only Mode)
Just giving you all the heads up, we may need to go into R.O.M very soon.
DAS seems to have grown in a big way lately.  It seems to have gotten a little crazy to be honest lol. We are getting in way more secrets then we can submit each day.
Which is why we may need to go into R.O.M shortly, then after that, there will need to be some changes made about secrets.
You will be informed about that later on when it gets to it.

Secret dates

I all also add something on the front page ( a photo type thing) letting you know how many emails we have at the moment, and the date we are up to.   Which at the moment  we are adding secrets sent in from the end of March.  ( Crazy I know ) There are close to 900 secrets waiting to be read and checked before being sent off to helpers to be added. ( can you see why we will need to go into R.O.M soon lol)

LIttle info about DAS

DeviantArtSecret has
1,621,364 pageviews
6,000 deviations were viewed 17,970,953 times
20,831 watches


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Negativity + Good things

Fri May 3, 2013, 9:09 PM
FRONT PAGE

It has come to my attention so many people have been writing so much negative things about the club, and about some of the secrets being submitted to the Club.
So I would like to remind those of you who can be bothered reading this journal of a few things.
As those of you who have been watching/following DAS for a while now will know that we do not respond to comments as we get so many comments in the club ( 1000+ a day ) it would be near imposable for us to go through them all, therefore we do not reply to comments. If you do comment on a secret or on the front page, or even in a journal asking us something, chances are we will not answer you.  To get hold of us to ask a question you need to either send a note or an email into us.
But aside from that....
What is up with all the negative comments being left in secrets? But mainly on the front page?
I understand DAS is not what everyone likes. Hey, cant please everyone all the time now can we.
To be honest, Id be a little shocked if everyone did like DAS. But there is a time and a place for everything.
No need to be so harsh to DAS or the ST's guys.  
Its all good and well not liking DAS but not to hate on others. This is called cyber billing I will get into that a little more in a bit.

For those of you who did not realise. DAS has NO CONTROL what so ever, as to what is added on dA's front page. We do not do it just to annoy some of you, we do not do it for attention. We dont even do it at all.
dA hs some strange system where the most popular art goes on there, or something like that anyway. I personally dont look at the front page myself, so  I dont even know how that works. Nor do I care about whats on the front page either to be honest.
DAS is about helping people who need somewhere and someone to reach out to. That is what we are here for.

We also do not have any control over the secrets themselves. They are NOT our personal secrets. Although myself and the wonderful helpers on the team do at times send their own secrets in.  (Yes we are humans and we do have secrets too ;) :nana: )

Please dont add your negative comments in the Club. Its not helping anyone, and all the complaining isnt going to stop how dA does things. If you have a problem with what is added on the front page of dA. Then its dA you need to complain to not DAS.

Art is Art. Just because you do not think it artistic does not mean you have the right to insult someone about how they have made their secret. Yes dA is an Art site. Lite is a type of art incase you have forgotten.  
We could filter though the secrets deciding what is artistic enough for DAS and what isnt. But who are we to judge?
We arnt!!! that is the point! And neither are any of you.  
As the saying goes "Art is in the eye of the beholder"  Keep your negative thoughts to yourselves please.

remove or not to remove?

As some of you will have noticed,  We ( DAS team) do remove some of the comments that get a little too rough around the edges. But what do you all think? Should we remove ALL of those comments that have been flooding the front page lately?
Would really like to know what you all think on this matter.

11 Facts About Cyber Bullying

"Cyber bullying"is defined as a young person tormenting, threatening, harassing, or embarrassing another young person using the Internet or other technologies, like cell phones.

The psychological and emotional outcomes of cyber bullying are similar to those of real-life bullying. The difference is, real-life bullying often ends when school ends. For cyber bullying, there is no escape. And, it's getting worse. Read on to get the facts.

:bulletpink:1.  Nearly 43% of kids have been bullied online. 1 in 4 has had it happen more than once.

:bulletpink:2.  70% of students report seeing frequent bullying online.

:bulletpink:3.  Over 80% of teens use a cell phone regularly, making it the most common medium for cyber bullying.

:bulletpink:4.  68% of teens agree that cyber bullying is a serious problem

:bulletpink:5.  81% of young people think bullying online is easier to get away with than bullying in person.

:bulletpink:6.  90% of teens who have seen social-media bullying say they have ignored it. 84% have seen others tell cyber bullies to stop.

:bulletpink:7.  Only 1 in 10 victims will inform a parent or trusted adult of their abuse.

:bulletpink:8.  Girls are about twice as likely as boys to be victims and perpetrators of cyber bullying.

:bulletpink:9.  About 58% of kids admit someone has said mean or hurtful things to them online. More than 4 out 10 say it has happened more than once.

:bulletpink:10.  About 75% have visited a website bashing another student.

:bulletpink:11.  Bullying victims are 2 to 9 times more likely to consider committing suicide.

GOOD STUFF

And now for a little good news :D
I would like to welcome the new helpers onto the team <3
I have added a few new helpers to the team, they will be still getting the hang of things, so please be kind to them while they are still getting their footing.
A few more will also be added in time too.  
But for now we will see how it goes :D
Thank you all who applied, and a BIG thank you to the helpers who have stuck around for a while now <3

-DAS

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Hello all from DAS (main DAS) + extra

Sat Mar 9, 2013, 10:24 PM
SPAM   EMAILS

Reminder please add our email address into your contacts.
That way if we need to reply to your email, you will get it, and it will not end up in your spam folder.

JOURNAL SKIN + ICON

If you would like to take part in this, please keep reading this journal for all information.
We are needing your entries as it will all be ending soon.
It would be nice to have a few more entries in.

SUBMISSIONS OPEN

:bulletpink:Send your secret to DeviantArtSecret@gmail.com:bulletpink:

For help or assistance, visit the
INTERNATIONAL SUICIDE PREVENTION WIKI

~~~***~~~

WOW its been a while  hasn't it. It feels like a life time. (OMG the text in here is sooo tiny ~Moves closer to the screen~ OK thats better, now I can see it lol. Eyes arnt as young as they were when this Club first came about lol.  Alrighty enough chit chat.

Id like to say I'm very sorry to all of you for my disappearance over the past few months.  I wont go into it, as its long and boring. Just know it was not what I wanted, and I had no intentions at all of just up and leaving the Club.
BIG thank you to all my DAS helpers who jumped in and kept things ticking over as best they could while I was away. They did a great job.
Mainly to DAS5 who put on their big kid pull-ups :P and slipped into the roll of 2IC ( 2nd in command)  What a champ :heart:
Please give a BIG THANK YOU to all of the helpers, they have all done a wonderful job while I was away :heart: I am very thankful, as all of you should be too :D

Also a Thank you to all of you too. You never gave up on the Club, you all waited and waiting for it to kick back up again. Its wonderful to have such loyal watches. One of you even donated a 12 month sub to us :O You are da bomb <3 lol. Have  no idea who did that, you kept yourself secret ;) Do know we are all very thankful though :D

A little did you know facts.
:bulletwhite: We have 1,480,355 Pageviews
:bulletwhite: We opened  Mar, 2006
:bulletwhite: We have 17,179 watches
:bulletwhite: We get close to 9000 views a day
:bulletwhite: Thursday is normally the most popular day secrets are submitted,
:bulletwhite: Secret 11614 [link] is the most popular secret with  4665 favs
:bulletwhite: Secret 11614 is also our most viewed secret too.
:bulletwhite: DAS is run by a main admin and a small handful of helpers.
:bulletwhite: Helpers come from different parts of the word, from different paths in life. With one thing in common... Wanting to help you.

AVA & SKIN
As a new start, how about we start off with a few new things.  First change is, we would like a new AVA ( Icon)  and a new Skin, made by YOU.
Its time to show us what your made of :D
Only a few things you need to stick to.

:bulletwhite: Needs to follow our theme of B&W
:bulletwhite:Needs to have either DAS or deviantartsecret on it somewhere (AVA and the Skin header)
:bulletwhite:The Skin needs to have the links in them (please see past journals to see them)
:bulletwhite:You are free to come up with what ever you like so long as it has the above :D
:bulletwhite:Enter as many times as you like.
:bulletwhite:You have till the end of March ..
:bulletwhite:Have fun with it them :D
:bulletwhite:Please send your entries in via note to the Club. Please DO NOT add them as a comment, as it may get missed.

Hmmm, may even throw in a few prizes for the best one ;) will see what happens with that.


Entries:

AVA's



Skins


Your Secrets
As explained in the last journal. Please do not send your secrets into the "new" email address. You will need to send them into deviantartsecret@gmail.com Which is now up and running like normal.
To those who you who sent in secrets last year. Im sorry, but all old emails have waved good bye, so we can all start again clean and new. You will need to send them in again.
To those of you who sent in your secrets to the "new" email address not to worry. Your secrets have been sent on to the main email address now, you WILL NOT need to re-send yours.

Please remember:
:bulletpink: Secrets must be submitted via email to DeviantArtSecret@gmail.com not via note to the group.  Secrets sent via note will not be added to the group.
:bulletpink: Secrets must be in an image format.  The DAS Helpers don't create the images to submit to DAS; this must be done by the Secret Teller.
:bulletpink: Secrets must be in a .jpg file format.  Secrets submitted in other file formats will not be accepted.
:bulletpink: If you wish to use stock in your Secret, only stock from deviantArt can be used.  We need to alert any stock artist of their stock being used and unfortunately we cannot do that if you use stock from a source other than deviantArt.
:bulletpink: Only one Secret at a time per Secret Teller.  Once you see your Secret has been submitted, you can send us another one.
:bulletpink: By default, comments are switched off on submissions.  If you want comments on for your Secret, please let us know when you email us your Secret.
:bulletpink: If you come across any negative comments aimed towards a Secret Teller, please NOTE us immediately with a link to the comment in question (for more information on how to link to a specific comment, check out FAQ #14: How do I create a link to a specific comment?).  There is no need to respond to the comments, as this may only end up causing a bigger problem.  When we receive your note we will act as soon as we can to remedy the situation.

For a full rundown on the Club Rules, please visit this journal.

I think thats about it for now. If you have any questions, Im going to leave this an open journal for you to ask your questions. I will update it over the next week with your questions, and the answers. ( if able to answer, and ONLY DAS related please)

Your Questions, and the Answers:
Q:    I have a question about the image does it have to be a stock ur own or otherwise, or if u create an image of ur own for the secret could that be used even if it's not a stock?

A:  Hello :) Cheers for asking a question :) if you wish to use a stock image in your secret, I highly recommend  you use one of the stock images found in many of the stock artists which support DAS. You can find a list of them on the front page of DAS.
You can use any stock images found on dA its self. But please remember you must follow the stock artist rules if you wish to use one.
You can of course use your own stock image, you will need to have it uploaded on dA as a stock image though.
You can not take a photo and just use it though sorry.
I hope this answers your question :)

Q: Can we make multiple entries? :aww:
A You can enter as many times as you like. Thank you for pointing that out. I will add that into the rules part :D

Q: Hey, are you taking any new DAS Helpers at the moment?
A:  Common question ;) No we are not at the moment, If and when we do need more helpers we will advertise for them.

Q: How often are we allowed to submit an entry?
A: Send in one secret, wait for it to be added. then you can send in another. You do need to wait till its been added before sending in the next one.

Q: You mentioned that we could send in multiple entries. Can we now send them in via the same email or does it have to be via different ones?
A: Im assuming your talking about the icons/skins??? If this is the case, they are not to be sent in via email, they need to be sent in via note/
If you are talking about secrets. You need to send one secret at a time, waiting for each to be added before sending in next one, and always from the same email address.




And thats all for now from me
-DAS

:bulletpink:Send your secret to DeviantArtSecret@gmail.com:bulletpink:


  • Mood: Exhilarated

General Update #3

Fri Mar 8, 2013, 11:34 PM
SUBMISSIONS OPEN

:bulletpink:Send your secret to DeviantArtSecret@gmail.com:bulletpink:

For help or assistance, visit the
INTERNATIONAL SUICIDE PREVENTION WIKI

~~~***~~~

Hi all - DAS Helper 5 here again.

:heart: We thank the anonymous person who gave us a twelve month subscription this week.  All of us here at DAS appreciate the gift very, very much! :heart:

I have some great news for you all - the DAS main admin has returned! :w00t:

We have now reverted the email address back to DeviantArtSecret@gmail.com - please email any NEW secrets to this address.

Note - any Secrets that were sent to the temporary email address that have not yet been submitted to DAS will be forwarded to DeviantArtSecret@gmail.com and added shortly.  Please DO NOT send them again!

In addition to this, due to the sheer volume of Secrets that were pending in the email account from last year, all Secrets that had been sent to DeviantArtSecret@gmail.com and were pending from last year will be deleted and will NOT be added.  If your Secret was among those pending from last year and you had not re-sent them to the temporary email address, please resend them to DeviantArtSecret@gmail.com and they will be added in due course.

Lastly, we're going to continue the theme of starting afresh by updating the CSS used for journals, as well as updating the account avatar - and we want your help!  If you are fluent in CSS speak and would like to help us out or if you want to create a new avatar for DAS, please note us with your ideas!  A new year and a fresh start all round! :eager:

Thanks again to all our watchers and a big warm welcome back again to our main admin! :D

~~~***~~~

Please remember:
:bulletpink: Secrets must be submitted via email to DeviantArtSecret@gmail.com not via note to the group.  Secrets sent via note will not be added to the group.
:bulletpink: Secrets must be in an image format.  The DAS Helpers don't create the images to submit to DAS; this must be done by the Secret Teller.
:bulletpink: Secrets must be in a .jpg file format.  Secrets submitted in other file formats will not be accepted.
:bulletpink: If you wish to use stock in your Secret, only stock from deviantArt can be used.  We need to alert any stock artist of their stock being used and unfortunately we cannot do that if you use stock from a source other than deviantArt.
:bulletpink: Only one Secret at a time per Secret Teller.  Once you see your Secret has been submitted, you can send us another one.
:bulletpink: By default, comments are switched off on submissions.  If you want comments on for your Secret, please let us know when you email us your Secret.
:bulletpink: If you come across any negative comments aimed towards a Secret Teller, please NOTE us immediately with a link to the comment in question (for more information on how to link to a specific comment, check out FAQ #14: How do I create a link to a specific comment?).  There is no need to respond to the comments, as this may only end up causing a bigger problem.  When we receive your note we will act as soon as we can to remedy the situation.

For a full rundown on the Club Rules, please visit this journal.

:bulletpink:Send your secret to DeviantArtSecret@gmail.com:bulletpink:


How to get a Secret submitted (updated)

Journal Entry: Fri Mar 1, 2013, 12:10 PM

General Update #2

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 11:46 AM
Good morning / afternoon / evening again to all DAS watchers.

I'd like to update you all on what progress the Helpers have made over the past couple of weeks behind the scenes here at DAS.

Thank you to those that took the time to vote and comment in the recent poll asking how long DAS should wait before creating a new email address.

In response to that poll, we will advise the activation of a new temporary email account to receive secrets at the start of March.  This is to give the DAS main admin some more time to return before we open up the new email address to secrets.

Once the new email address is published, it will be available to receive secrets for a two week trial period.  This should give the Helpers an understanding of how many secrets are generally submitted each week, as well as allowing the Helpers time to settle into their new roles in the group.

Secrets will be added in order of receiving them as is usual practice.  One Helper will be supervising the new temporary email address during this trial period.  They will remove any and all defining characteristics from the secrets sent in, before forwarding them to the other Helpers for submission; meaning that each Secret Teller's identity is kept safe and secure at all times.

If during this trial period the DAS main admin returns, all remaining secrets that have been sent to the temporary email account will be forwarded to the regular email account for actioning in the usual manner.  To be clear, the Helpers are definitely not giving up on the DAS main admin.  We hold every hope that they will return soon.

In addition to this, we have decided that during this trial period we will also keep comments disabled except when the Secret Teller has requested them to be turned on.  Note that the comments will be heavily moderated during this time and we will be hiding any extremely negative comments aimed at the Secret Teller and blocking any members that are repeat offenders.  Also note that we can only easily view original comments made on submissions; any replies posted to other comments may slip our attention.  We ask our watchers to note us of any inflammatory comments that they come across that are aimed at the Secret Teller that have not been hidden and we will endeavour to take whatever necessary action is required as quickly as we can.

Lastly, we would like to ask our watchers what changes to DAS they would like to see occur in the future.  We cannot guarantee that every change will be implemented (as some suggested changes may contradict others) but we will seriously consider each suggestion made to us and endeavour to implement those that the Helpers feel are in the best interest of the group.

We believe that most, if not all, current Helpers are now in contact with each other and to avoid this situation from occurring again there are back up plans being drawn up so the group can continue with the loss of any one Helper, including the Helper that will be supervising the email account that secrets are sent to.

Thank you all for being patient and understanding during this time.  All of the Helpers very much appreciate the support that has been given to us by our watchers.

~ DAS Helper 5

General Update

Journal Entry: Sat Feb 9, 2013, 5:17 PM


Good morning / afternoon / night to all DAS watchers.

DAS Helper 5 here.

I'm taking the highly unusual step (for a Helper) in posting a journal to update you all on the current status of DeviantArtSecret.

You may have noticed that we have not been submitting secrets over the past month.  If you have sent a note to DAS, you may be wondering why it has not been responded to.

Here's a little information about how DAS works - all of the Helpers rely on one main admin person to send us the secrets that you email in, in order for us to submit them to DAS.  Unfortunately, it currently appears that this main admin person is missing and has not been seen or heard from since at least around the beginning of January.

There may be a number of different reasons for this occurring – the person may have moved and is currently without internet access; they may have been very sick and unable to get to a computer at all or they may have simply been on holiday.  As none of the Helpers know the identity of each other or the identity of the main admin person, our only lines of communication has been through the email address that you all have and through the back room of this account.

What does this mean for DAS?

In the short term, DAS will be on hiatus for a little longer whilst all current Helpers convene to discuss how best to proceed.  This should not affect anybody, as we have been in Read Only Mode since approximately the middle of October last year.  A couple more weeks should not make that much difference in the grand scheme of things.

Please do not submit any secrets to the current email address until further notice.  Again, this should not affect anybody, as no one should have been submitting secrets since October last year in order for us to attempt a catch up.

In the long term, DAS will continue.  I am hoping that our main admin person is simply on holiday and has yet to log back in to his or her computer; this is better than any other alternative that one can imagine.  If they come back on, things will continue as normal soon.  However if they do not log back in, DAS may take a slight detour whilst myself and the other current Helpers discuss how best to proceed.

I end this update with the request that all current Helpers log in as soon as possible and check and respond to the notes that have been sent to each of you.

To the main admin person of DAS: I know I have taken a very unusual step here; one that you probably won't agree with.  If this journal gets deleted and my Helper rights withdrawn, I will understand and I thank you for allowing me to assist this club over the last few years.  However, know that I post this with the best of intentions for the DAS group – I do not want to see a club that helps so many people flounder and die.


~ DAS Helper 5

R.O.M + more

Journal Entry: Sat Oct 13, 2012, 2:05 AM


This part has been edited

We will be editing this part so you do not have to scroll down each update trying to look for whats been updated.
How long will you be in R.O.M for?
:new: It seems a lot of you either do not read this important journal letting you all know whats going on, as we are getting a LOT of emails with  people sending in their secrets. We ARE in R.O.M, you can not send your secrets into us.
Due to the amount of people still sending their secrets in, it is taking far too much of our time replying to all of you letting you know we are in R.O.M and your secret will not be accepted. Because of this we will not be replying to them anymore. If you send an email into us with a secret. It will just be deleted without being replied to.
Very sorry about this, but it is just taking up far too much of our time, slowing things down so much that we are not getting enough secrets submitted to be able to get out of R.O.M.

At this point we do not have a time / date when we will come out of R.O.M But we will be sure to keep you all up to date as often as we can letting you all know how we are doing.
:new:We are adding secrets sent in late October, early September at the moment. we have 821 secrets in our inbox
A few helpers are away at the moment, meaning things are going a little slower then I would like. But we are getting there one secret at a time :D



R.O.M

Sorry to tell you all, but it has been decided to go into R.O.M for a little bit. The time we will be is unknown at the moment, but we will keep you all up to date as time goes.

We have over 1000 secrets in the waiting at the moment, so we would like to get them all out of the way before Christmas comes upon us, where there will be more people online, sending secrets in, and helpers going away for the holidays etc.

What is R.O/M?
R.O.M = Read Only Mode / Meaning we will not be accepting ANY more secrets from this point on.

What will happen if I send in a secret now?
If you send in a secret from this point on, you will get a reply email letting you know that we are in R.O.M and it will not be accepted, letting you know you will need to try again when we get out of R.O.M



So what happened with my secret?
If you have sent a secret in, dont worry we will get to it, and we will add it as soon as we are able to.
We add secrets in the order they are sent in, so oldest secrets to the newest secrets.
If you sent your secret in, in about July or later, your secret will be one of the first to be added.
If you sent in your secret today or yesterday, your secret will not be added for a while yet.

What if my secret is declined for some reason? Do I have to wait till its out of R.O.M to send it back in again?
No you dont, if it is declined due to being too long, or not a jpg etc. Then we will reply to your email letting you know what to do to fix it. You will then be able to send it back in. You will need to say in it that you are sending it back fixed or something though, otherwise it will be deleted and you will be asked to wait till after we come out of R.O.M


RIP to a DAS helper

I have been given some sad news, one of the DAS helpers has sadly passed away :( We are very sad to hear this news, the DAS helper will be in our thoughts and our prayers.  I am unable to give out the helpers username or any other information sorry, so please do not ask.  
Please say a pray for their family and friends :heart:



Helpers needed

Due to the sad lose of one of the helpers, and a few other helpers leaving, and the amount of secrets that have been sent in, DAS is in need of a few more helpers to help get things moving.
If you are interested in being a helper please email us with the following information.

We are no longer looking for helpers.  Thank you for all of you who applied.

Please copy then paste it into an email to DAS,
in the subject add "HELPER" so we know what its about :)


1 How old are you? (You must be a min of 18 to be an admin sorry )

2 What is your ID on dA ( you must give this as we need to be able see who you are to get to know you, and check information you have given is correct)

3 How long have you been a member on dA?

4 How long have you been a member/ watcher of DAS?

5 How much of your time would you be able to put into the group?

6 Are you are female or a male?

7 Are you able to make a new email address? ( must be a new one, not an old one you never use, please dont make a new email address unless accepted, as we will need to give you some information on this )

8 Do you use FireFox, Internet Explourer, Chrome etc? ( some other program)

9 What country are you from, and do you understand English well? ( you do not need to be from an English speaking country, just be able to speck it and understand it well )

10 What is it about DAS that you like the most?

11 What is it about DAS that you dislike the most?

12 If you could change one thing about DAS, what would it be?

13 Why should you be accepted over someone else?

14 Tell us a little something about yourself so we get to know you a little better:

15 Do you understand that DAS must follow the rules of dA?( This may mean you may not always like how we do things. )

16 If you are accepted as a helper, will you be able to keep a secret and not tell anyone at all you are a helper in DAS? ( not even your pet or stuffed bear, or your best friend )

17 Do you understand, and agree to everything above?


Facebook account?

Journal Entry: Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:52 PM


DAS on Facebook

It has been mentioned time and time again why dont we make some kind of DAs type group/account/page (not sure which at this stage) on Facebook.
What are your thoughts on this? Please take a moment to read the poll made about this.  [link]

The account will be run by a group of team members, ( not the same ones as in dA )
You will of course have to follow facebook rules. That goes without question.  


Questions and suggestions

Do you have any questions you would like to ask, or any suggestions about this?
Ask in this journal, and we will do our best to answer them for you.
Your suggestions are most welcome, this is not a done deal, which is why your suggestions are most welcome.


Your Questions/concerns and some answers

How do we stay anonymous on facebook??
A very good question, :nod: I have been looking around Facebook, and I have seen a few type accounts that do this, so tried to see how they do it. But I was thinking about it, it "may" be done a few ways. ( Keeping in mind it will not be called DAS, it will be a little different not run the same as the DAS you know in here due to it being Facebook of course) One way, would be to just send in a PM, with your secret, you will just have to trust that the admin will not say who you are. A risk you will need to take. Or maybe an email address can be set up ( not the DAS email address ) so people can still send in without anyone at all knowing who they are.

I reeeeaaaally don't like this idea - I like being anonymous in commenting as well as submitting, and Facebook isn't so great for that. It also opens up the much stronger possibility that a ST will be found out by friends or family, due to the practice of putting "so-and-so 'liked' a picture on Group's wall!" (The ST doesn't have to like their own secret to be found out - 'liking' anything opens the door for any of their FB friends to look around.)

It could work, I suppose, but I'm wary.

Please read above answer about the submitting a "secret" part.
I see where you are coming from. Although same goes when you fave something in dA everyone can see you have faved it from your list of faves, and also it shows you have faved it on the dev in dA. So I would think it would be pretty much the same when it comes to that. You also dont need to "like" it in facebook, you can comment.  If you comment you are doing just the same as you are doing in dA when you comment. Unless you make a new secret account in dA to leave comments. Which you can also do in Facebook if that is of a concern.
You have brought up some very good points :nod: Some which if it all goes through, will be little problems that will need to be ironed out. There will always be a few little teething problems. Can only learn from it though :)


Is it the same rules as on dA or different? Can you submit more than one secret within a month?
No, it will not be the same as dA as it is facebook, so it would have different rules etc.
It would depend on how popular it is as to how often one person can send a secret in.


Nope. Sorry, not even a little bit ok with this. I can see why you guys want to branch out onto fb, but I think the group's message would get lost. FB is purely social, and anyone can snoop through and judge you for what you put on there, I've found people are a lot less forgiving and respectful over there. I'm not sure why. Of course, there are a few who are nice, like on here, and obviously not everyone on here is an angel, but the anonymity of the way it's set out can't be duplicated no matter how hard you try.

I think making a fb group would put people off, but that could be me personally. I'm still not sure how it could remain anonymous on a social network, where everyone has to know your name. I just think it's a Bad Idea.

It would not be only for dA members, it would be for everyone and anyone.  Also keeping in mind, facebook has different settings, something we would need to look into. Nothing is perfect though.  Some of the points you bring up, will of course be a problem, and others will be something we can look into.

I can see how it is possible to keep things private, but my issue is that the trend on facebook right now is just those dumb "Like if you know this person" Or "Like if you know that feel" It's not even really a social network anymore, its a spamming network. I personally would not like to see DAS exploited by people who just want likes or comments or views or whatever, that's not what the idea is, that's not the point of DAS. If I posted a secret on DAS and it showed up on facebook like a meme with 5,000,000,000 people sharing it, posting spamming comments on it, and saying OMG LYKKE THAT WAS MEEEEE I would be annoyed and upset. Because my secret would be trodden upon by simpletons.

If we could get it to work the way it did for the most part on DA, I think it would be a great idea. However, I don't see people being as respectful as necessary.

The two would be very different.  DAS and a facebook one would not be connected.  Any secrets sent into DAS and NOT secrets that would be added to Facebook.  Anything added to facebook would have to be ones sent into facebook, and not into DAS.

Is there any way you could make it a private group? I mean sure it will let everyone know you look at the stuff but not everyone will see what's going on without joining beforehand. I don't know much about how facebook works.
Yes, a group can be made so it is a closed group, so not everyone can see whats going on in there, if it is privet your friends etc, can not see if you have commented or liked something on the page.

I really don't see the point in it, considering for dA you don't even need to be a dA member to send in secrets here or even reply to them.
If you guys wanna give more of a chance for more secrets to be put up, just add on a few extra helpers that aren't as busy as you guys are and has extra time on their hands.
I'd also say start worrying over the comments here than potential comments on facebook. You can't block comments there, and if you can't trust the group here to make comments on something than why would you put these things out there on facebook to tear apart by spam and idiocy?

It has nothing to do with giving more of a chance for people to put their secrets up. No amount of helpers in DAS will make things go faster.  Thats something different altogether, nothing at all to do with this.
A facebook account and a dA account would be two very different things. Depending on how the settings are done, would depend on some of those things. People would also know if they dont want the bad input, then dont send one on. Its would come with the package so to speck.


Considering that right now comments are not enabled for most secrets because the community has 'lost the privilege' how would you handle this on Facebook? You can delete comments you don't like but considering the sheer volume of people that will be linked to something just to cause trouble, or laugh, or whatever the situation might be could quickly inundate your helpers.

DA is a much, much smaller community and there are already problems with the system that have resulted in comments being turned off, and comments are the whole reason I used to read secrets. I wanted to give my opinion, hopefully offer some suggestions, and help the person who is obviously so unsure what to do about their problem that they need to send it in anonymously to be read.

Idk, long story short, I would not be interested in or participate with a Facebook DAS. It would probably just make me personally very angry at how cruel people can be to others and I think it would stress out your staff.

See above about the comments, as it has nothing to do with the two, although I do see, and understand your concern.
Admin of the group would be the only people who would know who is sending a "secret" in,  the owner of the person sending it in would never be added in the secret.  As with all groups, there would have to be some set rules.


The secrets would get absolutely slaughtered with rude comments and trolls. Unless the people running the page can keep up with deleting hundreds of rude comments and probably blocking just as many people, it wouldn't be wise. You wouldn't be able to simply disable commenters like on dA. I don't think it'd be in a secret tellers advantage for DAS to have a facebook page. Many feelings would get hurt, and it could make situations for secret tellers worse, especially in cases where they may be severely depressed/suicidal. Cyber bullying does exist, and not everyone can take it lightly when they're looking for advice or sympathy about a serious problem.
It would not be a DAS as such, run by different people etc, and of course with that, comes different types of secrets, with different types of people and comments. It would need to be explained in the rules that if offended easily, its suggested not to send in a secret.

I don't really like the idea. Of course more people would be able to join
but I think there would be a lot more trolls spamming the secrets and sending e-mails with 'nonsense-content'.
I also fear that, with people watching and friends looking up what they watch, that they would start to suspect the other wrote the secret.
(Also the 'Like' function seems kind of inappropriate to me when it comes to secrets.)

I think its a bit of a give and take really. A lot like facebook, and a lot dont lol, its a personal thing really.
There would be a different type of troll in facebook, not more, just a different type, as there are 100's in dA, and a LOT in DAS, just a lot of you dont see the notes and emails that come in, you all only see some of the comments.  So this wouldnt really be anything that we dont already deal with as it is.
In a group in Facebook, it can be made a closed group, so if you are a member, and if you comment, or like something. Your own friends will not see this. (Unless they also follow the group) that would not be a problem.
The "like" feature, is just the same as the "fave" feature in dA.


Hm. It'd be handy for arranging things, but it would be sad if some of the dA community moved away. As long as everyone knows that there are some people that don't have Facebook and who aren't going to get it, it sounds like a good idea ^^
It wouldnt be in "instead of" DAS, it would be just a different way for people to get their secrets out.

I don't think it's a good idea. When it comes to commenting, I wouldn't be anonymous so that would make me feel uncomfortable. Plus, I've seen a lot of negativity on there. deviantART has it too but I see it more often on Facebook. I guess that would depend on how popular it becomes.
You're not anonymous now in DAS when you leave a comment, not sure what the difference would be there?
To be honest I see more hate on dA then on any other site Ive ever seen.  But I guess that all depends on where you are looking on either dA or Facebook. But it is everywhere.

putting it on facebook is almost posting it to the whole world, which can be good and bad. good 'cuz more people can input their thoughts, but that can also be bad, 'cuz some people post mean things for no reason and have no sympathy or want to appear badass. i think that outweighs the good and though sometimes its the thought that counts, in this case, it may do more harm than good.
dA is posting it to the world more then facebook is to a degree, on dA everyone and anyone can see it. On facebook, a group can be a closed one, so noone but members can see etc. In dA you dont even need to be a member of dA to view.

I think of Facebook it would be to.. open? I like it just fine on dA.
It would be closed group more likely

I don't have a facebook so I don't care too much, but wouldn't putting it on facebook make it FacebookSecret not DeviantArtSecret :XD: just a random thought...
Lol, It wouldnt be DAS thats for sure lol, the name isnt something thought of yet, that will be talked about when and if it happens






Your suggestions

why not tumbler. it has a ask thing and you could just put the secret there.
I have never used it, so to be honest, I can not comment on how good of bad it may be. Could be something worth looking into.

On tumblr there's an ask feature where the user can still remain anonymous, as well as posing the secrets like you do here on dA. Plus, the site (I believe) was originally designed to be more of an art website then what it's used as now, for those who say DAS is supposed to be artistic. But pages such as DAS would get a lot of attention on a site like tumblr. There are some trolls yes, just like on any website, but from what I've seen it's not as bad as it would most likely get on facebook.

I sound like I'm trying to promote tumblr, but I would just really hate to see this page expand to facebook. Too many people are cruel and insensitive to anything that isn't popular or normal. The page would end up getting so much hate you'd want to delete it.

Thank you for the suggestion of tumblr, as explained above, I have not personally used it so so can not comment about that. I will need to look into it for sure.

On the good side of this, the secrets might be submitted a little faster because it may take a little longer to submit something to dA than to facebook. Also, you'd get a little more criticism from a wider audience, people on dA tend to be the more artistic side of the pool of humans so hearing things from maybe people with different opinions might help. (I don't doubt that deviantart has a wide range of members, I'm just saying it's more likely people on here have different opinions than people out there.) It's possible that after seeing some people's secrets others might be affected by them and realize something about themselves, it's nothing too great to hope for, although it's unlikely. And it might be an indirect way for someone to tell a Facebook user their secret, because showing it to them on dA would be too obvious.

On the bad side, you'd get trolls and a lot of them. DAS already had to shut comments down because people on here, the nicer version of society or so I can tell, were trolling around. People on facebook tend to be more judgmental towards others because they think either no one will know it's them, you can't find them, or it'll make them seem cool. Considering the amount of hate some secrets might get when introduced to such a huge network, most people might be too scared to even submit their secrets. (This would make it a lot faster for secrets to get submitted but it would also make them all look the same, something people aren't afraid to show a huge network rather than what they really feel they need to get off their chests.) And the fact that their families and friends might be able to see it as well would also scare some people. I know that if my family knew the one secret I submitted to here, or thought that just because I liked a secret it made it true towards me, I'd be kind of wary.

The point being that although it could have some benefits, it'd also have huge downsides. I suggest not telling anyone about the page until you've worked out every kink, maybe have some people test it out a little bit or something. Work through everything you might have to take care of before you introduce it to a lot of people, if you decide to make the Facebook page at all. And warn that if trolling gets too bad the page will be shutdown automatically, or something along those lines. It might work out, but it could go bad just as easily. Good luck.

I would think yes, secrets would get added quicker. And the comments would be different types.
There are trolls everywhere, just as many in dA then anywhere else. A group can be a closed group, so that would help with all that.
You are correct, I think like everything, there would be the good and the bad, it would need to have those ironed out first.
I think having it in beta ( if it goes ahead) A closed group can be only selected members, so its not open for all. And can be controlled a little better. removing anyone who trolls too much etc.


tumblr's a ot better than facebook, and plus, you can send messages anonymously
im not sure a facebook page would work

I have not used it before, so do not know what it can and can not do, will need to look into it.

-DAS


'Keep Hope Alive' Week

Journal Entry: Mon Aug 6, 2012, 5:24 AM


'Keep Hope Alive' Week


For the past three years #Mental-IllnessClub has hosted 'Keep Hope Alive', which is a week focused on positivity and hope from the 5th-11th August! The week hopes to promote mental health awareness, and has contests & prizes, daily prompts and random draws for anyone who participates.

In the spirit of wanting to spread as much awareness as possible during this time even non members will be welcome to participate in the prompts and contest, and will also be able to submit submissions in to the group. Normally these are closed and are open only to members. As is the case with most groups you encounter, but hopefully this will encourage people who may be interested in the group but aren't sure if they'd like to join to drop in and see what we are about! :rose:

Our official blog post about it is here [link], and we also have some posters and the official stamp for further information. :)


The stamp



posters








Did you know!!

Journal Entry: Sat May 26, 2012, 1:55 AM


A little bit of a "DID YOU KNOW?!?!

Did you know, DAS has 9,681 watches?
Did you know, DAS has 1,164,904 pageviews?
Did you know, DAS has too many secrets in its gallery to count them all :giggle:
Did you know, since DAS has been open, the secrets have been viewed more then 15,000,000 times :O :faint:
Did you know, secret 11631 has the most comments, with over 1,000 comments.
Did you know, secret 11614 has the most faves , with over 4,000 faves.
Did you know, the secret viewed the most is secret 11614, with over 53,000 views.

Just a little useless information for you all :D


Comments

We realise a lot of you are biting at the bit to know what is going on with the comments.
You may have noticed by now "some" and ONLY some secrets have the comments turned on.

This does not mean all comments will now be turned on.
We would like to slowly start turning the comments on, but before we can do this, we need to be sure all is well in the comment department.
Please do not ask to have comments turned on when you send your secret in. At this stage, only a few secrets at a time will have the comments turned on, you however do not have a say in this. Unless you ask for comments to be turned off. Then they will stay off, we will never turn comments on if you ask them to be turned off.

From what we have seen by some of your responses to the comments being turned off. You are only proving our point.  Its not just about the negative comments given. You may want to think about that and remember it for the future :)
Comments will be back on in time. You all need to relax a little and let it be what it is. No amount of complaining is going to make things speed up.
Thank you to all of you who have supported us, and understood our reasons for turning the comments off to start with.


.JPG V PNG

So many secrets being sent in as a PNG. We DO NOT accept PNG files. we ONLY accept .JPG files.
It has been explained time and time again why this is how it is. If you are one of the people who have been complaining about it, please take a moment to read back though other journals where it has all been explained.
But for those of you who would rather not. We will explain in short.
JPG files are smaller
They are just as good as any other file for what is needed in DAS
They are easier to read if virus's have been added to them. (Virus scanners like jpg files better )
JPG are a lot quicker and easier to work with.

These are a few reasons.


DAS REPLYING

Please remember, DAS DOES NOT!!! reply to your questions or comments on the profile page/ journals/ secrets.
If you have a question of any sort, please dont ask it on DAS, send us a quick note, or email with your questions. We always reply to them if sent via notes or emails. Other then that we DO NOT reply to comments. You will be wasting your time asking a question anywhere else if you are wanting DAS to answer.
The members of DAS are more then welcome to reply to any questions other members have to ask though. Or if you would like to answer a question someone has asked, but are not too sure of the answer, you are welcome to note us, and ask us what the correct answer is, so you can reply with the correct answer.  ( Maybe we need a team of members who do just that? Food for thought there )

-DAS


Over 800 secrets

Journal Entry: Mon May 7, 2012, 3:41 AM


Do you know how to send in a secret?

It has become very clear that a lot of you have not read the clubs rules on sending in a secret. [link]

We started off with over 800 emails, we are now down to 682 emails.  Out of the 118+ emails we have been though, ALL of them have not been accepted.
Not because we did not want to accept them. But mainly because of the following reasons.
-No secret added ( secret is written out in the email, but not on a photo or a drawing, MUST be an image not just txt )
- Not giving Cite for the image used
- Image is not sent in as a .jpg file
- Sending in more then one secret ( please wait for your first secret to be submitted before sending in another)
- Too long ( only a few of you have done this, not too bad, thank you )

There have been a few other secrets declined for different reasons, but the main reason is the 1st three.


Lots of secrets

We do have a LOT of secrets at the moment, by not following the rules you are slowing down the process of getting secrets submitted.
A lot of you have been waiting ( close to a month ) for your secret to be submitted. Those of you not following the rules please, please, please, follow the clubs rules so those who have been waiting a while can have their secrets submitted.
its not very fair on those who have followed them having to wait due to it taking so long to filter though emails that are only taking up our time which could be better spent on getting those secrets out.


Waiting for your secret to be added?

As explained above, a lot of people have not been following the clubs simple rules, this has slowed us down a lot :(  We are very sorry to those of you who have been waiting.  
Thank you to those of you who have been understanding :heart:

If you have sent in a secret, ( last month not this month) and it is yet to be added, dont worry, we are getting there. Hopefully it wont be too much longer.
If your secret was sent in a while ago, and it has not been added yet. Please do the following.

- Go into your SPAM/JUNK MAIL folder. ( We may have replied to you and it has moved to that folder )
- Make sure you have the DAS email address added to your list of friends. ( This should stop any emails going to that folder )
- If you do not have an email from us, has it been over 2 weeks since you sent your secret in?
- If it has been over two weeks, send us an email ( WITH-OUT your secret in it ) just asking us about your secret.

It is very important you do not add your secret in this email. If you do, we will think its another secret waiting to be added, and will not get to it soon enough, meaning in the mean time, your secret may very well be submitted, then because we see 100's of secrets every day, it may end up getting submitted again. This is not cool :(  

if you email us, we will get back to you as soon as we can.

-DAS


Comments OFF!

Journal Entry: Tue Apr 17, 2012, 4:25 AM


Comments will be OFF

Ok.. So its become very clear lately that a lot of you have trouble reading the basic rules about what kind of  comments are accepted, and what kind of comments are not accepted. Due to this. For the time being all new secrets submitted will have their comments turned OFF
We are very sorry that it has come to this. This is NOT the outcome we wanted at all. Sadly we have been given no other choice for the time being.


When will comments be turned back on?

When we have decided that everything has died down a bit, and people stop spoiling it for everyone else.


Response to a few of your comments.

~MelchiahAlex While I agree it's a sad thing indeed that we've all lost the ability to comment on DAS submissions, let us not be too grandiose about it.

None of us have lost any of our "rights," posting on DAS or any other part of dA is a privilege at best, not a right.

Hopefully it wont take too long for the select few who act like children to run along elsewhere and the commenting can be restored for the rest of us.
Nicely put, couldnt have said it better if we wanted to.

~ImmaculateReprobate alternate accounts, "hidden comment" minefield is not appealing to anyone, and makes navigating annoying and difficult. Hiding all comments would be a task in 20+ pages of comments.

DA needs a delete comment button, so shitty comments don't make your deviation look off-putting to people wanting to leave constructive comments.
That would be really helpful, although it still means having to sort though all the comments to delete them. But as you said, at lest it doesnt look bad with all the hidden comments


~Camera-wielding-fool If this is due to the "love is sex and hate" secret, well...that's a bit much to be turning off comments.
If this was the case the comments would just be turned off on that one secret.  
But it isnt the case, there has been a great increase of comments all over the club. Not just in one place. If it was just in one place, it would not have been such a problem.


=Peanut-Medley This is why we can't have nice things.
We can still have nice things, just restricted a little at the moment

~LurkingShadow How do you determine that things have "died down" if you can't read comments? Is this simply a "We'll wait a few weeks and hopefully they'll be gone by then?" type of thing? Because.. I don't see how that can work. They'll obviously come back.
True, they very well come back, but have you never heard of the "ignore them and they will get bored" ? Same goes, if they cant leave comments, they will get sick of coming in all the time and not being able to leave comments, so will go away.  At lest in most cases.

I feel bad for the secrets that have been submitted before this and have yet to be posted, as comments are usually helpful. I'm sure there will be a huge lull in the amount of secrets coming in until comments are turned back on.
Turning comments off if not something we wanted to do, it really was a last resort. We agree with you, a LOT of ST send secrets in because they want and need help and advise.  But trust me, its not going to stop the secrets being sent in. If anything there has been a HUGE in-cress of secrets sent in.

~Pokeapache I come to DAS to see how I can help people. =(
As do many others, you will be able to again too

~dusty-llama I don't think it'd be beneficial to turn comments off. If there are inappropriate things being said, I would trust the community and moderators to point them out/deal with them.
One would think so wouldnt they.
Thankfully we do have some wonderful members of the community who contact us letting us know about different comments. But this isnt always the case. We do not catch a lot of them ( most of them) to which people just comment back to those comments telling them "off" which in return only adds fuel to the fire


Much of the reason DAS is different from Post Secret is that comments (helpful and hurtful, I'll admit) are able to be left on submissions. I think that's why a lot of people send theirs in at all.
Agreed.  It will be back to this again too. Comments off is NOT a permanent thing Its only part time

If a specific ST asks for comments to be turned off, because they're uncomfortable with the idea, that should be preserved. But to do it to all secrets is, I think, unfair to those that could truly use the advice.
This has been an option  for a long time now, but the thing is, 99% of people do want comments on, but do not want the "bad" comments. They will say they understand this, and want comments on. as soon as those "bad" comments appear. the "shit hits the fan" and no-one likes it.  No matter what happens, we cant please everyone.

~odezia Why not just remove undesirable comments? A lot of people use DAS for to give and recieve advice, you've completely ostracized a large portion of your audience by doing this.
Because this would take hours and hours and hours each and every day.

~Snorkelhead ugh seriously? sixbillionsecrets has good secrets but the commenters are all really rude people, that'd why I prefer here, the commenters are usually more supportive :/
It will be back to normal before you know it, this isnt for good

~ashnjohncomics That seems like the very wrong thing to do. Punishing others for the actions of idiots is never the best idea, in my opinion. If you ask me, you should handle this problem with a more diligent and involved staff. Keep a closer eye on the comments and use the "delete" button to your advantage. Some people send their secrets in specifically for the advice they might receive from people commenting. It was the one thing your site offered that PostSecret did not. Have to say, I'm more than a little disappointed.
Noone is being punished. Its just how it is. Involve staff? As in dA staff? they dont care about things like this. All they say is "hide" or "block" Which is not something that can be done in these cases. Not easy to go though over 1000 comments a day, and read them all. hide those that need to be hidden.  An account can only block so many people at once. So that will not work either. There is no "delete" option. Only hide, and report. Only a Staff member on dA can delete a comment.
If you feel the need to be disappointed, then be disappointed at those who spoilt it for everyone else. We do what we need / must do to keep things running in here. It doesnt mean we like what we have to do :(


~Mithrethor As others have said, it's understandable why this came about. However, some people really do need responses to what they post--it's why they submit secrets in the first place.
Agree 110%

Maybe there could be an option when submitting to allow comments, like "I understand the risks. Please enable comments on this submission." I'd think that would appease most parties involved.
That is how DAS is at the moment, everyone has the option of having their secrets comments on or off. They all know there are the risks of people leaving "bad" comments. But as mentioned in one of the above remarks, 99.9% of the ST ask to have the comments turned on. Its not always the ST who complains about the comments. More then often its members of DAS. But never the less, people ( most) do not like the "bad" comments, they want/need the replies to their secrets. But they dont want/need the bad ones. So when it happens, they complain.
If it was as easy as that, there would be no problem at all. Sadly we have no control over the comments people leave. Which makes it sad that we had to get to this point.


~tiger200188 Is there a chance you can just disable comments on secrets that could cause problems?
That is how it was

~gracie-is-a-pie I think it's only a problem now because recently, a lot of secrets have made it to the front page, so people who aren't familiar with DAS are commenting on them without knowing the rules.. It sucks that these people are spoiling all of these, though. Maybe instead of closing comments altogether, you should just add a link to the rules in the description.
We tried that. Look a few journals back you will see we reminded people about reading the clubs rules



Shhhh its a secret

Journal Entry: Thu Apr 5, 2012, 3:23 AM


Secret-teller

Are you a secret teller?  Do you want to be able to reply to some of the comments people give on your secrets?
As a Secret teller, we as that you DO NOT reply to comments on your own secret.

A comment - "Why didnt you scream?"
A reply - "It says in the secret that he had his hand over my mouth"
A reply - "Ops I mean over her mouth, not my mouth, Im not the secret teller"

This is pretty much a dead give away that "reply" is the secret teller, but is trying to cover themselves up, as they realise they gave themselves away.

A comment "Why didnt you scream?"
A reply " Im the secret teller, I couldnt, I didnt say it in the secret, but he had his hand over my mouth"

Clearly the ST has replied, and now its no longer a secret is it. Once people know who has told the secret. It is no longer a secret. A secret is something not told, or not told to many.


What is a secret


something that is or is kept secret, hidden, or concealed.
a mystery: the secrets of nature.
a reason or explanation not immediately or generally apparent.
a method, formula, plan, etc., known only to the initiated or the few: the secret of happiness; a trade secret.
a classification assigned to information, a document, etc., considered less vital to security than top-secret  but more vital than confidential, and limiting its use to persons who have been cleared, as by various government agencies, as trustworthy to handle such material. Compare classification



How you can reply

There is a way you can reply to those comments though, without anyone knowing who you are.
Just long in as ~Secret-Teller
This is an account not run by DAS but by a member of DAS.
If you would like more information on this account, please go to :iconsecret-teller: to find out how to get access to the account.
Please remember, DAS does NOT run this account, therefore we do not hold the password for the account, and nor do we have access to the account its self.
If you would like to reply to one of your secrets, we highly recommend using this account.

-DAS


Project Unbreakable

Journal Entry: Fri Mar 30, 2012, 2:15 AM


So.. What is Project Unbreakable?

In October of last year, Grace Brown began a photography project called Project Unbreakable. Grace uses photography to help heal sexual abuse survivors by photographing them with posters that hold quotes from their attackers. Rape survivor and advocate for victims of sexual abuse, Yvonne Moss, describes the project as a way for victims to take the power back of the words that were once used against them.


Sound interesting?

If you are interested in participating by either being photographed or sending in your own image, you may send her an email at projectunbreakable@gmail.com with the subject line "Photograph Me" or "Submission", depending on the circumstance.


Need more info?

Check out the web-page [link] to see what its all about.

Its a good project, hopefully it will help a lot of you.

-DAS


Reminder. ALL read please!

Journal Entry: Sun Mar 25, 2012, 5:53 AM


Reminder of a few rules

There are a few things we would like to remind you all of. Please read them carefully before sending in a secret.


Rules to remember

You can read all the rules here  [link]


One secret at a time

Some of you have been sending in more then one secret at a time, please only send in one secret at a time.
DO NOT send in more then once secret per email.
SO NOT send in another secret until your first secret has been submitted.


Too long

Please remember, secrets need to be short and to the point. if your secret is too long, it will not be accepted. No ifs or buts about this one!


Cite

It is very important that when you use an image in your secret you MUST cite the image.
You can not use your own photos in a secret. DO NOT take a photo of yourself, or your friend, then send that is with your secret on it. It WILL NOT be accepted sorry.
You can add the photo you have taken either to your own account as a STOCK IMAGE, or you are welcome to make a new account in dA for stock images. Please remember they MUST be submitted to dA under the stock account gallery.


Stock  gallery

When you add a photo to your gallery, or to your stock gallery, please make sure you add it to the stock images gallery. If you add it to the "photography" gallery, it will not be accepted.
When you are browsing through dA for a stock image to use for your secret, just because the account is a stock account, does not mean the image you pick is submitted to the stock gallery on dA. Before you use it, please double check it is added to the correct gallery.
We are finding more and more of you sending in photos which although submitted to an account that says "dasstock" but the image its self is not added as a stock image. This also means if a photo says in the artist comment "you are welcome to use as a stock image" This is all good and well, but if it is added to the photography gallery on dA, and not to the stock image gallery, it will not be accepted by DAS.
If you use more then one stock image in your secret, they all need to be stock images from the same account. You can not use one stock image from Danny B, and another stock image from Patty H, they all need to be from Danny B or all from Patty H.
Your secret will be declined if you use more then one stock account per secret.


PNG / JPG

ALL secrets MUST be a .jpg, we are getting a lot of secrets sent in lately which have not been the correct file.  We only accept jpg files. Please do not send in anything else but jpg files.
There is a lot of talk about this, so we will make it clear for all of you now. We ARE NOT changing it to PNG files. There is no talk at all between DAS about it being changed. This WILL NOT be happening. For those of you who disagree with this, sorry to disappoint you, but its not going to be happening any-time soon. Or any-time in the near future.


No secrets

We are getting more and more of you sending in an email with your secret in the email. But not as an image.
If your secret is not sent in as an image it will not be accepted. Please be creative as you can be when doing this.
If you send a secret in, which is a link to photobucket/ imageshack or anything else like that, it will not be accepted. you MUST send your secret in as an image in an attachment. If you do not do this, it just will not be accepted.


DAS and comments

If you leave a comment on the DAS profile page, or on a secret asking DAS a question, or anything else. DAS will not answer you. We do not answer comments sorry. If you have a question of any kind, we ask that you either email them in to us, or you send them in via a note to us.


Suggestions

If you have any suggestions, please feel free to email us, or send us a note with your suggestion.
We also welcome any poll suggestions, and quotes which you will find on the profile page.


Happy Birthday Thankyou!

Journal Entry: Wed Jan 4, 2012, 11:20 PM


It was our birthday

BIG THANK YOU!!!!
To all of you who wished DAS a happy birthday on the 1st of Jan. We are 1 year older and wiser ;)
As a little thank you, DAS is going to feature some of our wonderful fans out there in dA land.




One year sub

A HUGE thank you to the lovely kind person who donated a 1 year sub to the club.
We have no idea who gave it. But who ever you are, we are very very thankful :heart:


Secrets

Dont forget to send your secrets in.
DAS now has a few more helpers, meaning we can get though the secrets a bit faster. Now is a great time to get your secrets in.
Please remember to follow the clubs rules though. It is important you follow all the rules before sending your secrets in.


Journal History

DAS Stock accounts

Below is a list of some of stock accounts which give permission to use their stock.
If you see a beside a username that means they have have said its ok for their stock to be used in YouTube. If you don't see that emote, secrets added from them, will not be added to YouTube.


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~212Stock
~9-SpaceShipStock-3

A
~absense-stock
~Adaae-stock
~Adastrah-stock
~addictedxstock
~addonemore ( check its a stock image before using )
~AloneIsFree-Stock
~Ame-Stock
~Anakmoon-Stockage
~AngelSTOCK22
~AnnFrost-stock
~aprilmariestock
~asphyxiate-Stock
~Ayelie-stock

B
~becca-stock
~bellalleb-stock
=birdsistersstock
~Blood--Stock
~bloodykisses56-stock

C
~CarpeNoctem-Stock
=CatStock
~clandestine-stock
*ClarabellafaireStock
~coldstock
~CotyStock
~comfortingtear-stock
~Crimsonz-STOCK
~crowne-stock
~CyanideStock

D
*DaeStock
~dark-dragon-stock
~Darknight-Stock
~dastotenkopf-stock
~dead-brushes
~DemonWing-Stock
~Dragonfire3k3
~Dreamless-Stock
~dull-stock


E
~ElithaStock
~EmsemStock
~Emo1neko
~emo-muffin-stock
~empty-paper-stock
~empty-phantom-stock
~EmzazasStock

F
`faestock
=FairieGoodMother
`FantasyStock (be sure to check out folders in gallery)
~firedance-stock
~FlorescentMoon
~FoxStox

G
~Ghost-Rebel-Stock
~ghostkittystocks
*TrishaMonsterr-stock
~GrannyStock
*Gwathiell
~gwumpysmurfstock

H
~hauntingmewithstock
~Helewidis-stocks
~Helly-stock
=Hjoranna

I
*Inadesign-Stock
~insurrectionx
~ironholly-stocks
~izzmarit-stock

J
~jaded-reflection
~Jade6-Stock
~Jantiff-Stocks
~Jrennie1984-stock
~juchise-stock
=justalittleknotty
~JusticeStock

K
=kuschelirmel-stock
~kythca-stock

L
~LeandrasStock
~lelechan16stock
*letinhastock
=Limited-Vision-Stock
~Lift-manipulator
~LongStock
~loopyker-stock
~Lost-shadows-stock
~lotherian-stock
~LucieG-Stock
~LuckyStock
~lucretia-stock
~LydiaStocks

M
~melemel
~Meltys-stock
~Mend30012-stock
~MicherusSTOCK
~MLStock
~MobStock
~MOFT-Stock
~monster242-stock
~moonfreak-stock
~MucicaMacicaStock
~MysticrainbowStock

N
~NarcoticSanity-Stock
~neonrainbowstock
~nikita-stock
~Nirelstock
~nitch-stock

O
~o0oTamaraStocko0o
~Obsidian-Fox-Stock
~OkolokSTOCK

P
~PandaPaige-Stock
~Pawnshop-Stock
~PiratedPictures
~PictureTHIS-stock
~pocresophobia-stock
~PurpleLightningStock

Q
--

R
~radelaidian-stock
~rammkitty-stock
~RandJ-stockandref
*ravenarcana
*RLDStock
=RockStock
~roses-to-ash-stock
~ROSEmarie-photoz

S
=SalsolaStock
~SarahxJane-Stock
~sd-stock
~Secrets-Tock
*SenshiStock
~SerapStock
~shadowXphobia-stock
~silentsstock
*Sirius-sdz
~Sisterhood-Stock
~Skittles52modelstock
~Slylock-Stock
~snikkio-stock
~Skys-Stock
~so-hood-stock
~spiked-stock
~spirit-fire-stock
~Stock-By-Crystal
~Stock-by-Kai
*Spiteful-Pie-Stock
~stairwell-memories
~Stock-Secrets
~StockByAmi
~StockSaphitri
~Sukiko-STOCK
~sullenstock
~sunsetstock
~SUPER-nOva-Stock
~svend-stock
~Switchie
~Swordexpert-Stock
*syccas-stock

T
~Tepras-Stock
~the-REAL-me-inside
~Thea-Bea-Stock
~Thorvold-Stock
~thousanddreams
=Random-Acts-Stock
~Titelgestalten
~timmy64stock
~Trisa-Sxy-Stock
~turtledove-stock
~twigstock

U
~UmbraDeNoapte-Stock
`UnicornReality

V
~Valentine-FOV-Stock
~Vickithtoria-Stock

W
=WDWParksGal-Stock
~wookiestock

X
~xdeadlysinx

Y
~yasha1992sStock
~youownmyheartyouknow
~yvanstock

Z
~ZG-Stock
~zyouki-stock

If you have a stock account and would like to be added to this list send us a note letting us know. It must ONLY be a stock account.

Shoutbox

~BlazeFireWolf1:iconblazefirewolf1:
[link]
Mon Jun 3, 2013, 2:22 PM
~BlazeFireWolf1:iconblazefirewolf1:
[link]
Mon Jun 3, 2013, 2:20 PM
~AngeloftheBloodyRose:iconangelofthebloodyrose:
HEEELLLLLOOOO EEEVVVVEEERRRRYYYYOONNNNEEE!!!! :)
Mon Jun 3, 2013, 9:45 AM
~moonheartstar123:iconmoonheartstar123:
hey
Mon Jun 3, 2013, 7:08 AM
~SnowPeakTheInsane:iconsnowpeaktheinsane:
:OOOOOOOO omigosh hii
Mon Jun 3, 2013, 5:41 AM
Nobody

Stock accounts not to be used


Some Stock accounts dont like to be used on DAS
This is their choice please respect their wishes.
Below is a list of stock accounts that do not wish to have their art used in DAS.


If you are a stock account that would like to be added to this please send us a note letting us know.

*Della-Stock
^Elandria
=Falln-Stock
~GreenEyezz-stock
~imagine-stock
~mtnlesssndtrkSTOCK
`shelldevil
~Karma-Manipulation
~Track-Maidens
*Tasastock
*LadyxBoleyn

What kind of relationship are you in? 

57%
2,177 deviants said None
31%
1,172 deviants said Straight
8%
301 deviants said Same sex
5%
187 deviants said Other