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R.O.M

Journal Entry: Fri Dec 25, 2009, 2:54 AM


R.O.M

Sorry in inform everyone, but we are in R.O.M
Hopefully it wont be for too long though.

From this point on we will not be accept any more secrets. You will be informed when we are out of R.O.M

Sorry for any trouble this may have caused, we are trying to get all the secrets out by the end of December so in 2010 we can start accepting your secrets again.
At the moment we have just over 100 secrets.
To keep up to date on this, keep your eye out for our twitter.

DO NOT sent any secrets.

Once again sorry.

Thank you in advanced for your understanding.
Any questions please feel free to note us.
-DAS


Getting a secret submitted

Journal Entry: Tue Oct 13, 2009, 4:58 PM


Quick edit

This journal has been edited with info you need. Please re-read it all to make sure you understand everything.
Thanks
-DAS



Send your secret to DeviantArtSecret@gmail.com

You are invited to anonymously contribute your secrets to DeviantArtSecret.

"Each secret can be a regret, hope, funny experience, unseen kindness, fantasy, belief, fear, betrayal, erotic desire, feeling, confession, or childhood humiliation. Reveal anything - as long as it is true and you have never shared it with anyone before."

Send your secret in a .jpg image format file to deviantartsecret@gmail.com. Submit one secret per email. If you have multiple secrets, send multiple emails.

Please ensure that secrets are no more than 900 pixels wide as not all of out watchers have large screens. Secrets must be in a clear, easy to read text, and in English. We cannot accept non English secrets with an English translation in the artists comments. Secrets should be short and to the point - we do not need to know everything that led up to the secret, or what happened after. Just the secret itself. On very rare occasions, DAS may submit longer secrets if DAS thinks it necessary. If your secret is too long you will get an email telling you it has been rejected. DAS submits secrets in the order that they are sent, as long as they abide by DAS and dA submission rules.



One Secret at a time per person

DAS has grown so much, we now get an over whelming amount of secrets sent in every day.
Because of this we have decided on a new rule about how many secrets a secret teller can send in at one time.
We now accept one secret at a time. This is a rather simple rule as well as easy to understand. Here is how it works.

Send in one secret.
Wait for it to be submitted to DAS
Send in your next secret.


See simple isnt it :D



Your email must include

All the information we need for your secret to be successfully submitted.
If a photo or drawing is used Please see this journal for more information.



When will your secret be submitted

DAS is getting bigger and bigger ever day. More and more members are joining. More and more comments have been given. This also means more and more secrets are being emailed to us. Because of the amount of secrets being sent in, it will take a lest a month for your secret to be submitted.

DO NOT send in more then one secret at a time.

Wait until the the secret you sent in first has been submitted, then send in your next one.
If you send in more then one secret before the one you sent in before it has been submitted, you will receive a reply explaining this rule.

DAS is now a very popular club, we want to get all your secrets submitted, but if people keep sending in too many at once, it is going to slow us right down again and we will be right back in R.O.M more often then out of it.

Please understand and respect this.



What to do if you cant see your secret

before you do anything we would like to ask you all to add our email address to your contacts in your email. Once you have done that, fingers crossed if we need to reply to your email the email wont end up in your spam / junk mail.

So you have sent a secret in, but you cant see it, here is what you need to do.

1. Don't do anything unless its been over a month.
2. Keep an eye on your email inbox in case we have replied to your email.
3. Double check our gallery to be 100% sure your secret hasn't been submitted.
4. Check your emails again to make sure we haven't replied.
5. If you are 100% sure its not been submitted, and we haven't replied to your secret, you then need to send us an email from the account you sent the secret in from. ( not from a different email address)
In this email DO NOT resend your secret. All you need to do is ask about your secret. Something simple like "I sent my secret in a month ago but it hasn't been submitted, did you get my secret?"
We will then reply to your email.

That is ALL you need to do.
Please DON'T send in any notes saying your email address asking us to see whats going on. We never need to know your dA ID.
Please DON'T resend your secret even if you think we didn't get it. Just send a email without an attachment in it asking if we got it.

If you send in an email asking about your secret and you have added the secret, the email will be added to the list without being looked at with all the other emails with secrets in.
If you send the email without an attachment we can see clearly it's not an email with a secret in it, so it will be read right away.
If you send a secret in again because you don't think we got it the first time, chances are we have got it. So we will submit the first secret you sent in, then because you have sent it again, and because we see 1000's of secrets all the time we will not realise its already been submitted so it will get submitted again. This causes lots of problems



Special Requests

Special requests for your secret, such as turning comments off, (it may be turned off even if you ask it to be left on ) or having a short artists comment added (maximum of four lines) etc. When you email the secret and want something special done to it, please write what you want done within the email.
if you ask to have an artist comment added please make it very clear its to be added. Often it just looks like its part of the email just telling DAS not an artist comment to be added.
(more information follows about artist comments)

You can also have your secret link back to an older one (if your secret is a responding to a specific one). Text of your own can also be put in the artist's comments along side your image. Any other ideas, just email them and if there is a problem we can talk about it.



Artist comment

You can still add an artist comment to your secrets, but there are a few guidelines.
If your artist comment is something like "I still love him / I'm so sorry / I wish I hadn't lied to him" etc these comments will not be added to your secret.
The idea of adding an artist comment is only when your secret is hard to understand. if we feel the comment you would like added doesn't make a difference to how the secret is understood it wont be added.



Comments ON or OFF

Over the past few months we have been keeping a close eye on the comments in secrets.
Not only the comments but the replies to comments.
It has come to our attention more and more of you either do not understand our rules about commenting, or just dont care.
Because of this we will now be coming down a lot harder on comments being turned on or off.
You will find a lot more secrets now will have comments turned off, even if a secret teller ask for the secret to have comments on.
This of course is not saying all secrets will have comments turned off.
The reason behind this is far too many of you are leaving some of the meanest comments I have seen in quite some time. Far too many of you have been arguing with each other, as well as chatting with one another about things that have nothing at all to do with the secret itself.
DAS is not your personal chat site, it is not a forum for you to have a little chitchat.
Comments should only be comments supporting or helping a secret teller.
There are many ways a person can do this, please find a way to do so within our rules.
Over the past few months the comments posted have been getting worse and worse, we are very disappointed in the over whelming immaturely in some ( not all ) or the comments passing by DAS lately.
You have all been asked on more then one occasion to follow our simple rules. But even after been reminded ( some of you many times ) some of you still think it's ok.
Well thanks to you, you have ruined it for those that do follow our rules.
We ask you please to follow our simple rules. Dont ruin it for everyone.

If over the next few months we dont see a large improvement we will be forced to take further action.

We are very sorry to those of you who do support DAS, who do follow the rules, who do contact us letting us know when people step out of line so we can get things sorted out quickly.
We are also sorry you are the ones who have to pay the price for others stupidity :(

We hope all of you understand why this is happening.
We also hope from now on each and everyone of you will start to follow our rules so things can go back to normal again.
Remember don't use DAS as a place to argue, or chitchat. Note each other or leave a message on that persons page, DON'T do it on DAS.
If ANY of you come across ANY comments you feel shouldn't be there for what ever reasons. Please send us a note with a link to the comment you are talking about.
FAQ #14: How do I create a link to a specific comment?





This is DAS it is not a place to attack a secret tellers art skills. It is not a place to attack a secret teller for spilling their heart and soul.
Comments like "You suck / You need to be shot / WTF kinda heartless bitch are you " These comments are not wanted or needed.

Please refrain from replying to other users commenting on their signatures. You can comment on their front page or note them if you like, but please don’t do it on secrets. Let’s try to keep it relevant to the ST and their secret.

DAS is not a school. We have people aged 13 sending secrets in, from countries all over the world. All from different backgrounds. In secrets, spelling or grammar that isn't perfect is not a problem. DAS is about getting a ST's secret out, not to make them feel stupid or dumb because their spelling or grammar isn't up to your standards. You are more then welcome to comment about a persons secret. But we do not accept comments about people correcting someone's spelling or grammar.



Tips on giving good comments

Read secret
read the secret again
read artist comment ( if there is one always check)
Stop and think about the secret
Put yourself in the secret tellers shoes
Read the secret again
Think about what you would like to say
Type out your comment
Read the secret again
Read your comment again
Would this comment upset or make you feel bad? ( if so backspace and think more about what you would like to say)
No chit chatting
No debating



What will happen if I don't follow comment rules?

A few of you have asked about this, so this is the method of how we deal with these kinds of things.

If you are found posting silly comments, depending on what its about, it may just be hidden. If we feel its needed you will be sent a note letting you know your comment has been hidden, then giving you a warning that we don't accept that kind of comments.

If you make the same mistake again, your comment will be hidden, you will then be sent another warning reminding you of the rules, this will be your last warning.

Next time you dont follow the rules you will be blocked from DAS then unblocked right away (this will remove you from watching us)

You are more then welcome to re watch us, but be warned if you don't follow the rules you will be blocked for a month.

After that month is up you will be unblocked if you do the same thing again your will be blocked for longer. If this happens again you may find yourself blocked for good.

As you can see you are given many chances dont blow it for everyone else.



Are you a MSN /Hotmail user?

Those of you who use hotmail/MSN/Windowslive to send your emails, there is a new windowslive email program.
If you are using this, when you send an attachment it will send in a way that the only way it can be viewed is to download it.
This causes a big problem with us. As we don't download any secrets until we have first viewed the secret.
If you use this new program, you will need to go to the hotmail.com and send it the old way using the old method.
Sorry for any trouble this may cause you.
Thank you for your understanding.



Comment on your secrets

~Secret-Teller is an account that you can use to comment on your own secrets.
But please remember to read all the rules the account has. If this account is abused again it will be blacklisted from DAS.



Examples and Inspiration

Inspiration for this project was from - PostSecret

“The ongoing community art project where people mail in their secrets anonymously on one side of a home made postcard”

We are not in any way affiliated with PostSecret but would like to call DeviantArtSecret a “Spin-off” project that was inspired by it. Check out the PostSecret website and buy the books. Examples of Secrets can be found here or in the PostSecret books. There are now three different PostSecret books.


Copyright rules on dA

Journal Entry: Sun Jul 6, 2008, 12:41 PM


Copyright rules on DA

Due to recent events, we regret to inform you that we no longer accept "self taken" pictures for secrets. This is due to issues regarding one or more secret submitters wanting to have their secrets removed for one reason or another.

From the time this journal is posted onwards, we will only accept secrets that are either plain text on a background, or use images from deviantART stock resources. Included in our shoutboard are stock artists who are happy to have you use their work for secrets.

In future this may change, but for now our hands are tied in regards to the issue.

We apologize for any inconvenience caused. If you have any questions, please, feel free to note or email us.



***Edit***

A lot of the questions you have all been asking or some of the statements that have been brought up are all in our main page journal. We will how ever remind you all of this, then answer a few of your questions.

*Legal Notice*
By submitting information to DeviantArtSecret, you grant DeviantArtSecret a perpetual, royalty-free license to use, reproduce, modify, publish, distribute, and otherwise exercise all copyright and publicity rights with respect to that information at its sole discretion, including incorporating it in other works in any media now known or later developed.

If you do not wish to grant DeviantArtSecret these rights, it is suggested that you do not submit information to DeviantArtSecret. DeviantArtSecret reserves the right to select, edit and arrange submissions, and to remove information from the DeviantArtSecret website at any time at its sole discretion.

Note: This applies to the secret itself and the idea behind it, and not necessarily the art used along side it, due to the use of stock art.

Once a secret is submitted, the secret will not be removed. DAS is the only one that will decide if a secret will be removed if it falls under complications.

DeviantArtSecret reserves the right to change the rules at any time.

A lot of your questions or statements about adding something like this, as you can see has already been done, and has been up for well over a year now.
This unfortunately doesn't hold up with DA.
The policy you see above, is along the same lines as what Frank has. Not the same but along the same lines.
But unless you have singed something like this which to me seems a little fair fetched.
We realise their are a lot of young ( we are all young at heart don't worry ;) ) members that send in secrets. so this agreement form is a little over OTT ..
We are however trying to work something out with DA that will be something a long the same lines, but a lot easier to understand.

According to DA our journal means nothing at all if someone decides they want to report us. We need something signed.
This also means even though your emails you send us saying you give DAS permission to use your art. This is also not enough.
This disappoints us as much as it disappoints you as secret tellers..
We hope this is worked out very soon, this is a DA rule though, there is nothing we can do about it at all.
To those of you who have mentioned making their own secrets account where members can send their own images in.
Good luck to you. This rule isn't a DAS rule though it is a DA rule so you will have the same problem.
FAQ #193: How do I prove that I had permission to use someone's work?



Your questions and comments

Does this mean that you can't have secrets in any media other than plain background with text or stock image with text? So we can't draw images?
This is only for photos, you can still send your drawings in.

n my opinion they should be allowed to use self taken images as long as it doesn't reveal the identity of the person unless they don't mind it doing so
If for what ever reason the person then decided they don't want their secret on DAS, they can then report it to DA demanding it be removed, because they took the photo.

but can't you somehow add into the rules, that once a secret is submitted to =DeviantArtSecret, the secret - including the artwork, is the property of =DeviantArtSecret?
As you can see in the policy we have had for over a year now, it already states all this. But its doesn't mean anything to DA

I would send an e-mail to PostSecret and ask what their policy wording is because I'm sure they have had to deal with the same types of issues, people regretting sending in a secret or some such thing.
What PS has doesn't stand with DA, as DA has its own rules. DAS isn't a site on its own like PS is. We are "just" an account within DA, so we also like yourselves have to follow the rules of DA

once something is posted on the Internet it technically becomes public property.
People can argue it all they want for or against, but that's how post secret gets away without having to have a policy on their site.

This may be so. But as mentioned above. We are not our own site with our own rules, we must follow the rules of DA

What if we wanted to use an image we had taken that didn't have people in it or something
Its still a photo you have taken so at this point no sorry.

could someone not just create a own stock image, post it on deviantart, then use that same image in their secret?
Yes go for your life, that would work fine. If you don't mind people knowing you sent the secret in, you can also add it to your own account.

a self-taken image would be more appropriate for some, wouldn't it?
In some cases yes. Regardless, DA states that they have to sign something saying DAS can use it first.

That's part of the "Be Creative" clause in the rules of DAS. It's a great idea, DAS, i think it can help a lot of people get things off their chest that they don't feel they can say out loud to anyone else. It is doubtful now that i will be posting anything since i cant use my own images.
Sorry to hear you feel that way. Although you don't need to use a photo you took yourself to get your message across. You can be often more creative by using the millions and millions of stock photos here on DA. Or as mentioned make your own stock account, that way you can still use your own art is you must.

you could use a picture you took yourself if you're a stock artist, then you give yourself credit and no one would know, unless someone who See's it knows you.
As mentioned already, this is very true. and no its not a lot of hassle to do this. If you really want to use your own photos, and you really want to get your secret on here, you would make a stock account.

its not creative.
It is just as creative to use stock photos or brushes to make a secret then to use your own photos.. If not more so.

It would make way more sense that people have rules to agree to before choosing to submit a secret.
As already stated many times, we already have all this. But it doesn't stick with DA. People can still report it to DA demanding it be removed.

What if I don't want to use a stock picture because it doesn't convey the same feelings that one of my personal pictures does?
Then send a complaint to DA its them that have made this rule.

This new rule is just plain stupid. You keep taking away things that we can do with our secrets. Soon, there isn't going to be anything left, it'll just be words on a background if this keeps up.

We cant do anything about it, its out of our hands. :(
Although as mentioned we are trying to work something out with DA hopefully that will help.


Also, this is supposed to be a community group, therefor I think there should be community input as opposed to one person making up their mind. If you're really worried about things like this, you could easily message a DA staff and ask for some input and advice.
No-one has a say this this DAS doesn't even have a say in it. Its a DA rule its not something any of us have any control over. In case you haven't noticed. DAS always runs a poll because making an new distions. So the members of DAS always have a say in how things work in here. But this is not something DAS has any control over. If you arnt happy, then maybe the person/s who decided to report DAS should have thought about that first.
DA is involved in this.. If they wernt involved in it.. This journal wouldn't have been written, and this rule wouldn't have been made.


I suggest you reconsider and if you feel it's too tough a decision, then start approaching some gallery directors.
We had no choice in the matter. This is a DA rule not something DAS decided.

-DAS


Self harm in secrets

Journal Entry: Sun Jul 6, 2008, 12:38 PM


Self harm in secrets

Due to dA submission rules, DAS cannot accept secrets that depict real self harm. Makeup and/or other simulated effects are allowed. If you send in a secret that contains images of actual self harm, it will be rejected. If you have any questions, note or email the club.

For dA submission rules on self harm, please see FAQ #284: What is the policy for submissions concerning injury, self-harm and mutilation?


Citing the image

Journal Entry: Sun Jul 6, 2008, 12:37 PM


When you send in your secret

When you send in your secret, you must provide a direct link to the image that you used. Not :devusername: or just the username. We need a direct link.



Self Taken Images

Due to copyright issues, DAS can no longer accept submissions that contain self-taken images. This is due to a number of secret tellers changing their minds and asking for the secret to be removed. Unless everyone who sends in a secret also signs an image release form, DAS cannot use your image. As asking every secret teller to submit a form is a little OTT, DAS is no longer accepting secrets that contain images you, the secret teller, have taken. Please note you can still submit secrets that use drawings you have done yourself, or you can use stock. Our shoutboard has a list of stock artists that have already given permission for their stock to be used for secrets.

This is not a DAS decided rule; this is a dA rule. Please do not send notes to DAS complaining about it – it is out of our hands. DAS is just as disappointed as out secret tellers. However, dA needs a signed form. A disclaimer in our journals or implied permission in your emails isn’t enough. As an account of dA, we have to follow their policies.

FAQ #193: How do I prove that I had permission to use someone's work?



Stock Images in Secrets

If you used a stock image in your secret, DAS will tell the stock provider that their image has been used in a secret.
Please note that if the stock provider objects to the secret, they can ask for it to be removed, as it is still their image.
If you use stock, DAS does not accept secrets that use stock from sites other than dA.

We will soon be putting a stop to using stock accounts not listed for DAS use.
More information on this will be supplied when the time comes




Non-stock images

We are sorry to say, we no longer accept secrets using images that are not stock images.
We are still accepting secrets that use stock images that are not listed on our front page list.
This will how ever be changing in the near future.



Stock Artists in our shout-board

Not all stock artists like their stock to be used in DAS. To the right you will find a list of stock artists who have given permission. These are stock accounts that have all stock images in them, not normal photos.
The means the stock artist doesn't mind their art being used in the DAS on YouTube
We incorrage you to use the stock artist provided in this list.


Stock Artists

If you are a stock artist and you would like you account added to our list. Please send in a note from the stock account not from your main account. In the note let us know why you have sent your note, and let us know if you would also like to be added as a stock account who doesnt mind stock being used in DAS on YouTube.


Journal History

DAS Stock accounts

Below is a list of some of stock accounts which give permission to use their stock.
If you see a beside a username. That means they have have said its ok for their stock to be used in YouTube. If you don't see that emote, secrets added from them, will not be added to YouTube.


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~212Stock


A
~absense-stock
*Adaae-stock
~Adastrah-stock
~addictedxstock
~akai-hinoiri
~AloneIsFree-Stock
~Ame-Stock
*Anakmoon-Stockage
~Anne1392-stock
~AnnFrost-stock
=Ayelie-stock

B
~becca-stock
~bellalleb-stock
=birdsistersstock
~Blood--Stock
~bloodykisses56-stock

C
~CarpeNoctem-Stock
*CatStock
~Chi-Yo
~clandestine-stock
~coldstock
~CotyStock
=comfortingtear-stock
~Crimsonz-STOCK
~crowne-stock
~CyanideStock

D
~dark-dragon-stock
~Darknight-Stock
~dastotenkopf-stock
~dead-brushes
~DemonWing-Stock
~Dragonfire3k3
~Dreamless-Stock
*DyingBeautyStock


E
=eli-stock
~ElithaStock
~EmsemStock
~emo-muffin-stock
~empty-paper-stock
~empty-phantom-stock
~EmzazasStock

F
*faestock
=Fairiegoodmother
`FantasyStock (be sure to check out folders in gallery)
~firedance-stock
~FoxStox

G
~Ghost-Rebel-Stock
*GlamourousAcid-Stock
*GrannyStock
~gwumpysmurfstock

H
^Hanratty-Stock
~hauntingmewithstock
~Helewidis-stocks
=helly7307-stock

I
*Inadesign-Stock
~insurrectionx
~ironholly-stocks
~izzmarit-stock

J
~jaded-reflection
~Jade6-Stock
~Jrennie1984-stock
~juchise-stock
~JusticeStock

K
=kuschelirmel-stock
~kythca-stock

L
*LDD-Stock (be sure to check out folders in gallery)
~LeandrasStock
~lelechan16stock
*LongStock
~Lift-manipulator
*LongStock
~loopyker-stock
~Lost-shadows-stock
~lotherian-stock

LucieG-Stock
~LuckyStock
~lucretia-stock
~LydiaStocks

M
~Mend30012-stock
~MicherusSTOCK
~Mistress-Bizzarre
~MLStock
~MobStock
~MOFT-Stock
~monster242-stock
~moonfreak-stock
~MsCrys-Stock
*MysticrainbowStock

N
~NarcoticSanity-Stock
~neonrainbowstock
~nikita-stock
=Nirelstock
*nitch-stock

O
~o0oTamaraStocko0o
~Obsidian-Fox-Stock

P
~PaleScarlet-stock
~Pawnshop-Stock
~PiratedPictures
~PictureTHIS-stock
~plug-in-baby-stock
~pocresophobia-stock

Q
--

R
~radelaidian-stock
*rammkitty-stock
~remeyblue-stock
*RLDStock
*RockStock
~roses-to-ash-stock
~ROSEmarie-photoz

S
=SalsolaStock
*sarahebear-stock
~SarahxJane-Stock
=sd-stock
~Secrets-Tock
~SerapStock
*Seraphic--Stock
~shadowXphobia-stock
~Shiro-Kioku
~silentsstock
~Sisterhood-Stock
~Skittles52modelstock
~Slylock-Stock
~snikkio-stock
~Skys-Stock
~Stock-By-Crystal
=Stock-by-Kai
~so-hood-stock
~spiked-stock
*Spiteful-Pie-Stock
~stairwell-memories
~Stock-Secrets
~StockByAmi
~SuckChokeBlow-Stock
~Sukiko-STOCK
~sullenstock
~sunsetstock
~svend-stock
~Switchie
=Swordexpert-stock
~syccas-stock

T
*Tasastock
~Tepras-Stock
~the-REAL-me-inside
~Thorvold-Stock
~thousanddreams
*timmy64stock
~turtledove-stock
~twigstock

U
--

V
~Valentine-FOV-Stock
~Vickithtoria-Stock

W
=WDWParksGal-Stock
~wookiestock

X
~xdeadlysinx

Y
~yasha1992sStock
~yvanstock

Z
~ZG-Stock
~zyouki-stock

If you have a stock account and would like to be added to this list send us a note letting us know. It must ONLY be a stock account.

Shoutbox

*hailqueenspider:iconhailqueenspider:
merrrrrrrrry christmas!
Mon Dec 21, 2009, 6:34 PM
~eskile:iconeskile:
:juggle::flirty::pray:
Sun Nov 29, 2009, 12:56 PM
~AngelicxAlchemy:iconAngelicxAlchemy:
Thank you to everyone who's ever commented on a secret. Your words are always so heartfelt and helpful, even when teh secret isn't even mine!
Sat Nov 28, 2009, 4:58 PM
~Kai69Doom:iconKai69Doom:
I'm in love with DAS!
Mon Nov 23, 2009, 12:42 AM
~StyxM:iconStyxM:
To ST.7810, if you ever read this, I don't think there's anything wrong with you. You're awesome! :hug:
Sun Nov 22, 2009, 4:23 AM

Stock accounts not to be used


Some Stock accounts dont like to be used on DAS
This is their choice please respect their wishes.
Below is a list of stock accounts that do not wish to have their art used in DAS.


If you are a stock account that would like to be added to this please send us a note letting us know.
=CozycomfycouchStock
=Della-Stock
=Falln-Stock
*GreenEyezz-stock
~imagine-stock
~Insanistock
!liesaastock
~mtnlesssndtrkSTOCK
`shelldevil

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28%
219 deviants said I only got out because my sperm got too long :|
25%
196 deviants said damn those ovaries getting in my way
20%
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7%
53 deviants said I think I know all about sex, so I dont need to play a game. ( Im a chicken and I dont want to be proven wrong)
5%
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5%
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4%
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2%
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